

| Subject: | Re: Freon Conversions |
| From: | tbill |
| Date: | Tue, 08 Jul 1997 22:13:41 -0500 |
This it too good- I'm going post it on the list. TBill Carl Ponder wrote: > > TBill > You recently wrote: > > Um, the later, I think. BTW, can you mix the propane with the feon, or > > do you have to evacuate the feon first? > > In support of your position, I recently came across a letter as follows: > > > This discussion was hashed out years ago on sci.energy. Here are some > > of the points: > > > > 1. No one disputes that that hydrocarbon refrigerant is explosive when > > mixed with air in the proper proportions. > > > > 2. However, it takes a gross leak in an air conditioning system to get > > enough hydrocarbon refrigerant into the air to get to an explosive > > mixture. > > > > 3. Refrigerant leaks are normally very slow on air conditioning systems. > > These leaks are so slow that you won't build up an explosive mixture > > either inside the passenger compartment or a closed garage. > > > > 4. You can get a fast leak if you are involved in an accident. But > > even if you have a fast leak, you need to have a fairly optimum > > mixture of fuel and air to get an explosion. > > > > 5. There is enought (flamable) oil in an A/C system that even > > a system with only R-12 can have a leak which will burn like a > > blow torch, producing chlorine gas in the process. > > > > 6. If you are talking about a major accident, you need to keep in mind > > that you may have 100 lbs of flamable gasoline, 8 lbs of flamable > > engine oil, a few pounds of flamable brake fluid, some flamable clutch > > fluid, etc. Cars are rolling bombs, even without any A/C. A few pounds > > of flamable refrigerant may not be a significant additional hazard. > > > > 7. If you do put hydrocarbon refrigerants into your A/C system, clearly > > label the system so that someone servicing it knows that hazard which > > may exist if the system is opened up (large leak). > > > > 8. The propane/iso-butane mix is a better refrigerant than R-12, and will > > give better cooling. > > > > 9. If you are not comfortable with it, don't do it. But keep the the > > scare stories in perspective. > > > > 10. I believe that pure hydrocarbon refrigerant substitutes are not > > "approved" by EPA. But there is no environmental problem with them. > > The EPA is responding to pressure from the automobile A/C servicing > > lobby, and imposing regulations outside of their proper area of > > concern. > > > > Donald Borowski WA6OMI Hewlett-Packard, Spokane Division > > I personally subscribe to the conspiracy theory between Dow Chemical, The EPA, > and the Automakers. > > Carl
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