

| Subject: | Re: Diesel Vanagon Starter ? |
| From: | Stuart MacMillan |
| Date: | Thu, 5 May 2016 16:05:19 -0700 |
AFAIK, all flywheels have replaceable ring gears. They are hardened steel and the flywheel isn't. I used to take them to a machine shop for replacement, but here is a fancy new flywheel option for you: http://www.foreignautosupply.com/parts-accessories/34-in-line-4-cylinder-vanagon-engine-conversion-flywheel/#.VyvP4vmDGko Stuart -----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Jim Felder Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 3:17 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: Diesel Vanagon Starter ? RE diesel flywheel teeth coming off... no, all one piece. Gone are they days, as far as I know, that you could restore a flywheel by grinding through the teeth until you could just knock the ring off with a hammer, then put the new ring in the oven and the flywheel in the freezer and then take that leap of no return. Fun! Jim On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 5:11 PM Scott <SCOTTDANIEL@turbovans.com> wrote: > the diesel starter uses a bushing mounted in the nose of the starter > itself. > There should be no movement of this bushing in the starter housing, > and the fit of the starter shaft into it is ...'smooth, not sloppy or > tight.' > > there is a Retainer Ring sort of thing on the shaft forward of the > bendix drive gear. > Covering that ring is a round part that snaps over the ring under it, > that is in a groove in the starter shaft. > if you wiggle it, it will rock some on top of the ring it's covering. > ..kinda a snap fit. > ( when I go to replace a bendix drive gear ...I use an open end wrench > over the shaft to tap this retainer thing off the ring. You can see > which way it will go. ) > > havn't had to look at one in a while, but I'd say this 'cover ring' > thing limits movement of the bendix drive gear toward the flywheel and > slight wiggle is normal.. > And I imagine you have a stock diesel flywheel. > > in any case... > 'Usually' whenever there is oddball or unclean engagement of starter > to flywheel .. > if it's not worn out flywheel starter teeth, it's the bendix drive gear. > > a bit fidlly to replace .. > only about 30 bucks from a good starter rebuilder shop .. > take them your starter to get numbers off it . > Heck, I got The Perfect bednix drive gear for my 46 year old Mercedes > car for $ 27 that way. > ..and that totally fixed the intermittent failure to engage or stay > engaged. > > btw....flywheel teeth. > they don't wear evenly all around the flywheel, since engine > compression causes the engine to stop in 4 places more than everywhere else. > Do rotate your engine through a full turn inspecting those flywheel teeth. > > I have long wondered if the ring gear comes off the diesel vanagon > flywheel. > 'traditionally'...like on a 70's era Mercedes for example.. > That gear is a heated/pressed/and shrunk on ring gear. > Like a 70 dollar part at a 'real' foreign car parts supply company ( > not a FLAPS ) > > to replace it, heat with a torch ...tap if off.. > heat new one..drop it onto the shoulder if fits on ..let it cool in place. > Neat. > One of these days I will try that process with a diesel vanagon > flywheel I have, because just rotating that ring 80 degrees or so on > the flywheel with give it fresher teeth for the starter to engage. > > hope ya followed al that !~ > S. > > > On 05/05/2016 02:52 AM, Don Hanson wrote: > > I have an 84 van with an inline gas motor and the diesel style 50 > > degree mounting set up. The transmission is currently out. I have > > had this strange "squelching" sound when I start the vehicle...not > > every time but frequently. Been doing this now for a few years and > > perhaps 40k miles...There is no problem starting, the starter seems > > to behave normally, other than the weird sound as the gear retracts, > > I guess. > > > > On this diesel starter, there is a small bearing or bushing > > sharing the shaft with the starter gear. It is about 5mm wide, with > > a shallow groove around the circumference and is slightly loose on > > that shaft. It seems to be meant to slide back and forth slightly on > > that shaft, perhaps to keep the gear from being extended too far into > > the flywheel teeth? I can 'wiggle' this bushing slightly with my > > fingers....It seems like this could be the source of the weird sound > > that sometimes comes when I release my starter switch....kinda > > sounds like when you trap a ping pong ball (do people still play > > ping pong?) under the paddle against the table.... > > > > Does anyone have anything to advise about this? Is that bushing > > (sorry for the imprecise terminology) supposed to wiggle, or should it > > slide smoothly on that shaft? Can that little bushing be replaced by > > itself? What's it called? thanks. Don Hanson > > -- > > >
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