

| Subject: | Re: 1981 Brake Caliper Decision |
| From: | Jon VO |
| Date: | Thu, 23 Jul 2015 08:00:54 -0600 |
Bigger brake kit means at least 15", most likely 16" wheels to clear the calipers on any of the high quality kits; Small Car, GoWesty, Van-Cafe, etc. Also, with the 16" steel wheels, you will also need to add 10-12mm spacers for clearance. These 10mm spacers will then require new longer lug bolts to allow proper engagement. Alternately you could opt for alloys, although they are 7" wide, a bit much for a 205R65-16 tire. However that is all that is available, at least easily found. The wheel/tire packages sold by the the same parts vendors will clear the brake kits just fine, but are pricey, $1K to $1.2K. I sue the Nokian van tire, 205R65-16 or 215R65-16, the latter size will not fit in my spare tire area up front, the 205 will, with some mods, and only on a steel wheel (narrower). The 16" alloys with either tire will require an external spare tire rack, due to the width & diameter, at least on my van. But you'll have nice brakes... Jon > On 5/17/2015 5:34 PM, Neil N wrote: > Hi all. > > The back ground info is below, but here's the bottom line; I need to > improve the braking on my '81 Westy. I suspect the rebuilt calipers I installed > several years ago, never worked 100% correctly due to poor quality assembly or > parts. i.e. one leaked right away. Image: http://tinyurl.com/lqsx4gf > > My choices: > > - upgrade steering knuckles, install a "Bigger Brake Kit" > - upgrade steering knuckles, install new '86 + calipers etc. > - rebuild a spare set of Girling calipers. > > Is rebuilding the old style calipers a waste of time? Most of those > cores are pretty old now, > have likely been rebuilt at least a few times, and I've heard that > some rebuild kits may not be of good quality. However. I have what may > be a decent set of calipers I could clean up and rebuild. > > Thanks, > > Neil. > > Since I'd been driving my '88 Westy the last while, I've since > discovered that the brakes in my '81 Westy pale terribly in > comparison. I had a Vanagon mechanic road test the '81 brakes. His > first comment about them was something akin to 'they're crappy'. > He also suggested it could be a caliper issue; I'd installed rebuilt calipers > several years ago (along with doing a bunch of other brake work) > The brake system is in otherwise good condition but the brakes just > don't "bite" as well as my '88 brakes, there is considerable fade, > pedal doesn't feel as hard as that on my '88. > Rear shoe were is normal and even. I'm certain no air is in the > hydraulic system. > The mechanic said he'd run into a problem like this before. He removed the pads, > and carefully pushed the brake pedal down to move the pistons further out in an > effort to (reseat?) the piston O ring. He said this improved the > brakes and that the > issue had to do with either the piston position or the O ring itself > (not flexing enough?) > > -- > Neil n > > Blog: Vanagons, Westfalia, general <http://tubaneil.blogspot.ca> > > 1988 Westy Images <https://picasaweb.google.com/musomuso/New1988Westy> > > 1981 Westfalia "Jaco" Images, technical <http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/> > > Vanagon-Bus VAG Gas Engine Swap Group <http://tinyurl.com/khalbay>
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