

| Subject: | Alternator Troubleshooting |
| From: | Gregg Carlen |
| Date: | Sun, 30 Oct 2011 14:02:46 -0400 |
Hi folks, I'm hoping I can tap into the collective wisdom of the list for some light Sunday afternoon troubleshooting help. Background: 91 Westy, 2.1l, automatic. Northern Virginia area. My battery light came on yesterday during our icky weather. At first, it was faint and appeared to be flickering, but quickly became steady �on�. As I would expect, after about 15-20 minutes of driving with headlights, windshield wipers, rear heater and rear defroster on, I lost power and the van stalled. On the side of the road, I put my voltmeter across the battery and got ~7 volts. Dead battery. Connected my portable jump-starter battery pack, waited a few minutes, and started the engine (without headlights, minimal use of wipers and all other battery drains turned off). If I turned off the jump-starter, within 30 seconds the engine would stall out. If I Ieft the jump-starter on, the van would start and I drove it for another 10 minutes to get off the highway and to the parking lot of a gas station (where it stalled out again because the jump-starter was drained by this point). Weather turned worse and called AAA for a tow. Ran out last night and picked up a rebuilt Remy-brand after-market 90A alternator (just in case I would need it the next day). Now that I�ve got a chance to check things out, here�s what I did: Before starting anything, I charged the starting battery, checked terminals, alt belt tension, cleaned wire connections to alternator. Re-started the engine and the alt light came on, strong and steady. Volt meter across terminals B and D resulted in about 7V. Thinking to just jump all in and swap the alternator, I quickly realized that the pulley�s were different between the alternator in the van and the rebuilt one in the box, so no-go for a quick and easy swap since I don�t have an air compressor strong enough to power an air-wrench to �bump� the retaining nut on the pulleys. Tried holding it with a vice and such, but really it�s on there tight. For reference, the pulley on the alternator in my van (which has a �remanufactured� label on it, looks like the v-belt pulley on 27.17 in Bentley. It�s up close to the fan. The rebuilt replacement alternator I picked up last night from FLAPs has a pulley that looks like the one for a 45A/65A alternator on page 27.16 and the 90A version on 27.15. (The rest of the alternator looks like the 90A version on 27.17). So, some quick testing with a voltmeter: Test 1: with the engine running, I put my positive lead on terminal B and the negative lead on terminal D. The voltage was 7.1V. Battery light still on dash. Thinking this is a bad voltage regulator or brushes, I pulled the voltage regulator out. A little grimey at the metal contacts, but the brushes looked fine. Cleaned the grime off and re-installed the regulator. Restart the engine and check voltage across terminals B and D and I get 7.1V. Battery light still on dash. Just for kicks, I pulled the regulator out again compared it against the one in the new alternator from FLAPs and they look identical physically. Test 2: Installed the new voltage regulator into my old alternator. Started the engine and tested across terminals B and D and I get 6.9V. A few other measurements at this point (wish I had taken them in previous tests): Terminal B to alternator housing: 11.75v, dropping to 11.5v after about 30 seconds Terminal D to alternator housing: 4.57v So, given that information and testing, I�m thinking either I have a bad alternator (diode, perhaps) or I�m chasing down the wrong path altogether. One other caveat to mention: on my original alternator, the suppression condenser was not mounted the same as the new alternator from FLAPs (which was connected to terminal W and the alternator housing). Mine has had the connector cut off and mounted to Terminal D, and the condenser itself had the hole enlarged and mounted to terminal B. Don�t know that this would cause an issue, but thought I�d mention it. It�s been this way since I acquired the van earlier this year. Any thoughts or advice on other things to check? Or, next steps to take? Do I replace the alternator at this point (find a way to swap the pulleys or get a replacement one with the correct pulley)? Thanks in advance! Gregg 91 Westy (Blueberry)
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