

| Subject: | Re: Volvo reliability , Bah Humbug |
| From: | David Kao |
| Date: | Sat, 8 Sep 2007 00:18:38 -0700 |
Guess Friday isn't over yet. I have to talk about my Volvo too. What I have is a 1980 262C. In the 80's there were a lot of 240's. And there were some 260, 262 and 264's. Mine is a 262C. The letter C doesn't tell much about how special it is. It is made (or modified and assembled) in Italy by Bertone. Two door, 6 cylinders and automatic. You have to look at it to realize that it is a different kind of Volvo. Unfortunately the V6 engine short lived. I mean very short lived. I purchased it used from a Volvo dealer when it was below 50k miles. After I added 30k+ miles the engine quit. Coolant leaked into oil. Major disaster. I had the head gaskets replaced. But the new gaskets lasted only a few months and collant leaked into oil again. I drained the coolant and changed the oil then put it into storage. Has been in storage for about 6 years now. I believe I need a new engine for it. Instead of rebuilding it, putting in a Japanese V6 engine probably makes more sense. Believe it or not, its chassis looks like a new car still. Shiny paint all over. Alloy wheels and square head lights. It looks really nice except the engine reliability was rather poor. I heard that the V6 engine was actually a French motor. It has wet cylinder liners similar to Vanagon's. I know the engine is still pretty rebuildable. But I would rather put in a Japanese v6 conversion. I would consider a small v8 if possible. David --- Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM> wrote: > Ok, my two cents. > Having worked on volvo's for years. > 140's - good tough strong car - a bit much from the carburetor era. > 240 - they just will not die. The OHC B21F inline 4 starts in 1976 > ....There are still countless 240's, mostly wagons, soldering around. Made > up to 92.....I don't' like them, but many do and they have many 100,00's of > thousands of miles in them. > > 740's - expensive to own once they get older unless you do your own work. > My personal 740 is an 88 Turbo Sedan - absolutely the best car I've ever > owned - a factory hot rod with special suspension and brakes to go with the > turbo - loaded with safety, performance, and luxury features. Bought it for > a few hundred bucks. Had to rebuilt everything in it from engine, to trans, > to rear end, all shocks etc. Goes 80 like it's going down hill, steers like > a fighter plane, and does not blow around in gusts at all. ABS brakes, > etc......LOVE that car, but you don't seem many of them on the roads anymore > - due to the expense of getting them repaired professionally when they get > old. I'm up to 217K miles. > Reliable as could be, AFTER every thing is up to spec and refurbished as > needed throughout. > > I 'wish' there was more 'volvo' in Vanagons. Very well made cars - volvos. > Bosch electricals and electronics. Big focus on crashworthiness and over > all safety. > > > The newer Volvos - fwd 850's and above .....a whole other world, more > complex, more 'modern' , not even related to traditional front engine, rear > drive volvo's. > And I think they 'like money' too much when they are above a hundred K to > 150K miles. > Scott > www.turbovans.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of > neil N > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 6:23 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: Volvo reliability , Bah Humbug > > The following is "said" with a PhriDaye kinda "bent". > > Ok. I'm not trying to start some kind of Swedish War here, ;) (Oh > yes. I am part Swede) but IMHO, almost any $1600 car bought offa CL, > is likely going to cost the owner muchos $$ whilst doing a long, > heated, trip. And.,..... > > ..... being a former Volvo 140 series owner, but I'd have to say that > the Volvo 140 (and liekly the 240 series from what I've heard) had > solidly built/designed engines. They were also quite comfortable. > Plus, that wagon-o-mine was a great little hauler. At one time I > thought I'd "have it made" if I could keep my collection of Life-Gear > small enough to fit in that green wagon. Cha. Right! And I have truly > digressed....... > > I miss my old 145S wagon. It didn't have the electric OD, but it was a > good vehicle. I beat that thing silly, running it low on coolant, > revving it too high etc. and it finally developed a REALLY LOUD > intermittent "whack" in the engine. It actually ran fine. It just > whacked a little now and then. (eh..... I'll leave that one alone ;) > > Not trying to start a Volvo flame, but I guess I did rekindle an "old > flame" Volvo memory. > > Neil. The PartSwede. > > > > > On 9/7/07, Pensioner <al_knoll@pacbell.net> wrote: > > If one googles "The Frugal Road Trip New York Times" you can learn how to > > spend gobs of cash herding a decrepit OvLov across the fruited plain. Fun > > to read. Keep me away from vintage OvLovs. Rather have a Vanagon. > Wonder > > if Chris Dixon knows this guy? > > > > Vanagons rule most of the time. > > > > > -- > Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia - > "Jaco" (Bustorius) > > http://web.mac.com/tubaneil > > Please send fav Vanagon/Westfalia links to me at: > musomuso1963@hotmail.com > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/
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