I only use ramps. I launched my brother's toyota cresida over a set of ramps.
scared the dickens out of me . tossed them in the dumpster. Still hear about
it and it has been 10 years.
What i do with the van is I use two jacks one at each point ( the factory
crank type)
takes anout two min to get it on the stands .

Jim Morgan
86Gl auto "breadbox" 214,000,0 miles
Westlake,Ohio
jm060356@aol.com