From: "Mike Pedersen" <mikeped@shaw.ca>
To: "Jon" <jon@FOREIGNAUTOSUPPLY.COM>; <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: Golf/ jetta auto trans can be used with vanagon diffs

> C'mon Jon,
>
> I can't imagine you'd get more flames than that TIICO dissertation...
>
> Anyways, I agree.  I've got a Jetta auto in mine and it seems to work
fine.
> 50K on it too.  I've always wondered if the factory messed around with
> different trannys too, why else would the FLAPS ask if you needed the
round
> or square filter when you but a filter kit?
>
> BTW welcome to the list.  I've been off and on for a few years now and you
> are certainly bringing some fresh info to the list.
>
> Mike
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jon" <jon@FOREIGNAUTOSUPPLY.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 4:42 PM
> Subject: Golf/ jetta auto trans can be used with vanagon diffs
>
>
> > The automatic portion of any '85-'92 golf / jetta will mate the
> differential
> > of any vanagon air or water automatic transmission. The casting part# on
> > both automatic trans portions are identical.  When you buy a clutch kit
> for
> > either automatic, you get the same kit.  Differences:  You must swap out
> and
> > re-use the reverse planetary gear portion from the vanagon(very easy
with
> > both out front of you on the floor).  The vanagon 8mmx1.25 studs that
mate
> > the auto portion to the diff.  are shorter and need to be changed
> **Bentley
> > gives a real nice description.  Only a few '90-'92 golf /Jetta tranny's
> came
> > with oil coolers, So you can try and find one, however, much more
> > expensive... I always use the regular ones without and leave the cooler
> > lines attached to the cooler and secure it in, because you'll have no
bolt
> > holes on the Golf /Jetta trany's to thread them into.  I've been told by
> > many you can't do this.  They may be right, however, they also told me
> > they'd never actually  tried it.  We've done 8 here that have over
50,000
> > miles on since the change and one with over 132,000 and counting.  The
> valve
> > body is different internally (spring tension) but can be swapped either
> way.
> > I think the optimum is to use the golf/jetta valve body; they seem to
> shift
> > so much smoother and at a more useful RPM range.  Either way the shift
> > linkage must be changed (real easy) and you have to drop valve body to
get
> > to it.  We decided to try it on our own first, years ago after pricing
> used
> > vanagon auto's.  The golf / Jettas are cheap with low mileage at bone
> yards
> > ($175.00- $375.00)  I do suggest changing all necessary gaskets ,seals
and
> O
> > rings when assembling even if fluid is pink...that's usually the only
> reason
> > these trannys fail mostly---the deteroration of these items I just
> mentioned
> > above  allows  ATF fluid(dexronIII) to "swap spit" with the diff.
> fluid(gear
> > oil)contaminating the clutches and then the mess begins from there.  The
> > first swap took 1 1/2hrs  after a few now  25mins with a bentley manual
> > right handy.----  Hopefully I won't get as much heat from this
> posting----If
> > you need more info or part #'s let me know ---Jon
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "VWNut Hawk" <vwnut@HAWKCOMPUTING.COM>
> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 8:12 AM
> > Subject: Can Jetta auto transmissions be used on some Vanagons?
> >
> >
> > > Someone mentioned to me that the newer (90's) or so Vanagon can
> > > use part of the Jetta automatic transmissioins?
>