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Subject:Re: vanagon springs - my only rebuttal
From:Steve Schwenk
Date:Fri, 22 Feb 2002 09:15:43 -0800

Gee, ron, how stupid do you think people are.  This is why i say you are
slick slimy snake.  You deny in one post what you said in your prior
post and hope people are too stupid to notice.  You live in a world of
half-truths and slick word games.

The Bus Despot:  Where the customer is always wrong and and you get your
stuff when they feel like it, if yer lucky.

Go VANAGAIN.COM !!!

steve@syncro.org wrote:

>
>  Ron does not know a damn thing about my springs.  His attempt to
>  > characterize them is complete fiction, made up out of thin air.
>
>  Funny, I didn't characterize them at all.  In fact I didn't say
> ANYTHING
>  about Steve's springs whatsoever, other than noting that they were
> for
>  Syncro's (unlike mine), and that they raise the vehicle whereas mine
> lower
>  it.  (And even then I added that raising the vehicle was a desirable
> feature
>  for many Syncro owners, so if anything I _complimented_ his
> springs.)   In
>  fact, I have even sent a couple of customers to him who wanted Syncro
>
>  springs, since I don't carry them.  (Never again!)  It would have
> been
>  absurd for me to compare my springs to Steve's.  Steve's springs are
> for
>  Syncros and raise the vehicle. Mine don't fit Syncros, and they lower
> the
>  vehicle.  Apples and oranges.  They can't even be used on the same
> vehicle!
>
>  While I said nothing negative about Steve or his springs, Steve
> called me a
>  "slimy snake," a weasel, questioned my business ethics, and said that
> my
>  Boge springs "will not deliver anywhere near as fine a ride as mine"
> and
>  "are harsh and diminish travel."  How would he know that, considering
> that
>  he doesn't have a pair? (I'm sure he will quote the old stand-by,
> "unnamed
>  sources," or say he "tried" them on an unnamed van, right?)  The real
> truth
>  is that my springs have received good press on this List.  It's in
> the
>  archives; see for yourself.
>
>  > There was a time on this list where he almost got permanently
> booted
>  > because of his business ethics.  That was back when he was
> threatening
>  > to sue people if they dared speak criticism about his business.
> Note
>  > that he is no longer a recommended vendor on vanagon.com.
>
>  That's completely untrue.  It simply never happened.  In fact I'm one
> of the
>  oldest contributors to the list - since way back when the Vanagon,
> Type 2,
>  Vintage Bus, and Eurovan lists were a single list.  And as for not
> being
>  mentioned as a "recommended vendor" on the Vanagon.com site, I'm in
> good
>  company - along with such venerable list members such as Boston Bob,
> Darrell
>  Boehler, AA Transaxle, Frank Condelli, Dennis Haynes, The Skylight
> Guy, and
>  others.  We are all, however, listed on the site as aftermarket VW
> parts
>  vendors.  (Ironically, Steve Schwenk isn't listed there. :-)
>
>  So, indeed, one of us is less than honest.  One of us is fabricating
> lies
>  and slamming  someone else's product and character for his own
> personal
>  gain.
>
>  You decide who that is.
>
>  - Ron Salmon
>    The Bus Depot, Inc.
>    (215) 234-VWVW
>    www.busdepot.com
>
>  p.s.  This is not the first time Steve Schwenk's gotten into a
> fighting
>  match with another member of this list (or even the second or third,
> for
>  that matter). I've noticed that he always likes to have the last
> word, and
>  will certainly respond with a new spate of accusations, attacks,
> falsehoods,
>  and half-truths.  I'm going to stop this here on my end, and not
> respond
>  further to him. Hopefully that will help this ridiculous thread die a
> quick
>  and undignified death.  Please do not take my future lack of response
> to
>  lend credence to anything that he says. I'm just not going to let him
> drag
>  me any further into the mud with him.  I've cleared my name, as I
> felt I
>  must, and that's it.

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