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Subject:Fw: Your removal from the vanagon list
From:jhlauterbach
Date:Sun, 29 Jul 2001 13:15:53 -0400

Can anyone advise me as to what is going on.  Messages seem to be rolling in
fine.

John
----- Original Message -----
From: "L-Soft list server at Vanagon List (1.8d)"
<LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
To: "John Lauterbach" <jhlauterbach@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 12:00 AM
Subject: Your removal from the vanagon list

>
>
> Sun, 29 Jul 2001 00:00:57
>
> You  have been  automatically removed  from the  vanagon list  (Vanagon &
> EuroVan discussion list)  as a result of repeated  delivery error reports
> from your  mail system. This  decision was  based on the  automatic error
> monitoring policy  in effect for the  list, and has not  been reviewed or
> otherwise confirmed  by a human  being. If  you receive this  message, it
> means that  something is wrong: while  you are obviously able  to receive
> mail, your mail system has been regularly reporting that your account did
> not exist, or that you were otherwise permanently unable to receive mail.
> Here is some information which may assist  you or your local help desk in
> determining the cause of the problem:
>
>
> - The failing address is jhlauterbach@EMAIL.MSN.COM.
>
> - The first error was reported on 25 Jul 2001.
>
> - Since then, a total of 13 delivery errors have been received.
>
> - The last reported error was: Unavailable; DSN status was 5.1.1
>
> PLEASE DO NOT  IGNORE THIS MESSAGE. While you can  of course re-subscribe
> to the list, it is important for  you to report this problem to your mail
> administrator so that  it can be solved. This problem  is not specific to
> the vanagon list, and also affects your private mail. This means that YOU
> HAVE PROBABLY LOST  SOME PRIVATE MAIL AS WELL. Anyone  trying to write to
> you  during the  same time  frame will  probably have  received the  same
> errors for  the same  reason. The  vanagon list  is but  one of  the many
> people who  may have  tried to write  to you while  your mail  system was
> malfunctioning.
>
> DO NOT LET TECHNICAL PEOPLE CONVINCE YOU THAT THIS IS NORMAL. It is never
> normal for a mail system to claim  that a valid, working account does not
> exist, just as it would not be  normal for the post office to return some
> of  your mail  with  "addressee  unknown" when  the  address was  written
> correctly.  It is  true that  some mail  systems are  less reliable  than
> others, and your technical people may be doing the best they can with the
> tools  they have.  But, ultimately,  the level  of service  that you  are
> receiving is the result of a  business decision, and not something due to
> a universal technical limitation that  one can only accept. Reliable mail
> systems do exist, and  it is ultimately up to you  to decide whether this
> level of service is acceptable or not.
>
>

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