

| Subject: | Engine turns - Fails to start - Trouble Shooting |
| From: | JRodgers |
| Date: | Fri, 6 Jun 2014 10:36:48 -0500 |
I have been having a conversation about this with fellow Vanagoneer Jeff Palmer and decided to write this up. His question was: "Are your current problems similar to the ones on your vans a couple of months ago on the one you sold" Here is my response. I hope it helps someone. John >> Jeff, Both were hard starting. But when I did the test - one indicated a bad coil. I replaced it and no more problems. On the other the test showed a bad Hall sender. Because of the mileage on that vehicle - over 200,000 - I opted to just install a rebuilt Bosch distributor that came with the new Hall sender. The current problem acts similar. Engine turns rapidly - but will not even fire. Definitely have fuel to the injectors, definitely have air - but no fire. But that could be the coil, the hall sender or the ECU. The Hall sender sends a timing signal to the ECU that tells the ECU when to pulse the injectors and when to pulse the coil. If the EU does not get the Hall sender signal - it will not fire. But if the coil is bad - it also will not fire. So the test differentiates between the two. Three steps: Pull the distributor wire, crank the engine, hold the distributor wire 1/8 in from the engine block or other ground point - you should get a spark. If not - go to the next step. Pull the Hall sender plug from the connection behind the distributor. There are three terminals inside the plug. The two outside terminals are power and ground - the middle terminal is the connection to the ECU and provides the signal to it. Stick a small pieces of wire into one outboard terminal = clip a test light to it, and with ignition on - touch the test light probe to the other outside terminal. If it lights up - then power to the Hall sender is good and the ground is good. Go to the next step. Put the wire in the center terminal and touch it to a clean engine ground point. You should get a spark from the coil wire every time you touch that center lead to ground. Also - the injectors will pulse and you can hear that. Synopsis: Spark - Yes: Ignition control(ECU) is good, coil is good. Replace Hall Sender. Spark - No: Check the coil and the ECU. Most likely failure is the coil. Having a spare coil might not be a bad idea. It's probably the easiest way to check the ECU for proper operation. Just R&R the coil and see if it runs. Given that my problem is intermittent - I just have to wait until it happens - then quickly do the tests. If there is an "Open" in the circuit - it will show up then. This test is easy and quick. Good hunting,
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