

| Subject: | Re: Where do you get your coolant? |
| From: | Jeff Palmer |
| Date: | Thu, 22 May 2014 09:25:31 -0500 |
I've been using VW Blue Gold as long as I've owned the van but am open to equivalents. Can i top up my van with Xerex for example or do i have to completely flush and refill with the new coolant? Thanks Jeff On 2014-05-17, at 8:34 AM, Dave Mcneely wrote: > You are welcome. Another poster followed up with a photo of the bottle label from the yellow bottle PEL (regular, not diluted). It states to be phosphate free. That is true of Zerex long life coolant also. I use Zerex, which states on the bottle to be phosphate free, and it is yellow. > > ---- Frank Condelli <RAlanen@AOL.COM> wrote: >> McNeely, thanks for this VERY good information ! >> >> Frank >> >> >> On May 16, 2014, at 3:29 PM, Automatic digest processor <LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> wrote: >> >>> Hmmm ..... . Hard to know what is going on here. I found this on Prestone= >>> 's web site: >>> >>> "Q: Does Prestone=C2=AE Antifreeze/Coolant contain phosphates? >>> A: Some European automobile manufacturers request that a phosphate-free ant= >>> ifreeze be used in their vehicles. This issue is related to the extremely h= >>> igh mineral content of the water in Europe. If you were to mix an antifreez= >>> e that contained phosphates with the type of water they have in Europe, it = >>> may produce deposits that can settle in the cooling system and promote corr= >>> osion. However, in North America we do not have this type of water problem.= >>> Typical North American coolants have contained phosphates (which is part o= >>> f the corrosion inhibitor package) for many years. Therefore, the question = >>> of phosphates is a non-issue here in North America. Prestone=C2=AE Antifree= >>> ze/Coolant is completely safe for use in both foreign and domestic vehicles= >>> . For those consumers who would feel more comfortable using a phosphate-fre= >>> e antifreeze, our Prestone=C2=AE LongLife=C2=AE Premixed Antifreeze/Coolant= >>> and Prestone=C2=AE Dex-Cool=C2=AE Premixed LongLife=C2=AE Antifreeze/ Cool= >>> ant formula=E2=80=99s are phosphate, silicate, and borate free. These coola= >>> nts use a special chemistry and technology that extends the life of the cor= >>> rosion inhibitor package so that it lasts for five years or 240,000 kms (wh= >>> ichever comes first), and is safe for all cars and light trucks (old or new= >>> ). Prestone=C2=AE Dex-Cool=C2=AE Premixed LongLife=C2=AE Antifreeze/ Coola= >>> nt has been approved by General Motors under their DEX-COOL=C2=AE specifica= >>> tions and is compatible with other DEX-COOL=C2=AE approved coolants. >>> * DEX-COOL=C2=AE is a registered trademark of General Motors Corporation." >>> >>> http://prestone.com/products/antifreeze_coolant/product_list >>> >>> >>> The product mentioned in the answer to the question is shown in a yellow bo= >>> ttle. Whether it is a diluted form of the Prestone Extended Life Antifreez= >>> e/Coolant also in a yellow bottle is not clear, as is whether that product = >>> is phosphate free (based on product descriptions on the Preston web site). = >>> I would not trust any product to be phosphate free unless the manufacturer= >>> made the claim that it was in print. >>> >>> As to there being high phospate waters in Europe but not in the U.S., that = >>> is simply not true. There are lots of water sources in the U.S. that are h= >>> igh phosphate, especially ones that receive agricultural or urban runoff. = >>> Most watersheds receive both. >>> >>> mcneely > > -- > David McNeely >
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