On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>wrote:

> The ethanol is really not going to kill our vehicles any more than unleaded
> fuel or modern engine oil or even current antifreeze. The ethanol bend
> helps
> reduce pollution as it is a safer oxygenate then MTBE. The oxygenate helps
> reduce carbon monoxide emissions particularly for short engine cycles and
> cold climate areas. In addition ethanol is a cleaner burning fuel than
> gasoline. There is probably also a benefit of the ethanol burning
> characteristics reducing the formation of NOx. Yes there is an economy and
> performance hit. However the EPA is working to have all of use 15% so we
> just have to adapt. Just like all diesel will be 15% bio-diesel soon.
>
> Dennis
>

    Just curious about ethanol and it's base.   I have 'heard' that many
other countries use beets or cane to make their ethanol and that those
crops are a lot more effective than subsidized corn,   effective at getting
the vehicles moved for the least cost ..Some have said it actually takes
more than a gallon of fuel in the supply chain to produce a gallon of corn
ethanol.at the 'gas' pump.  How about the sugar beet or sugar cane type
ethanol?   Is that the case there, too?  Or is government-subsidized corn
ethanol actually THE best way to make this stuff?