I've wondered this before -- why groans?
Jack'86 Westy Weekender'05 Jetta TDI Wagon

> Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 10:24:14 -0700
> From: jjstov@YAHOO.COM
> Subject: Re: Lola's first test trip: The Good, The Bad & the Ugly. (Sorry,              Long)
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> 
> Thanks Stuart, 
>