I also forgot to mention, when it does it, it is on the first start of the day, the rest of the day it starts fine. 

Jeff Stewart 

----- "J Stewart" <fonman4277@COMCAST.NET> wrote: 

Sorry, folks, every time I post something like this I DO reread it to check if I have given all the info,and even though I *think* I have, I haven't. Jiggling the shift lever or putting it in neutral doesn't help. The connections at the starter and the battery are very clean. It does not have the hard start relay, I haven't put one of those on since a '77 Bay Westy I owned years ago, but maybe I need to look into that, cheaper than a starter! Here's how it goes (and typical of my life!) I have the day off from work and have planned to do more than humanly possible in one day. At 7:45 this morning I run out and jump in the van to go to Lowes. Turn the key about 20 times and nothing-warning lights on, fuel pump whirring away, nothing from the starter. Daughter comes out of the house to go to school. I get out of the van and commandeer her New Beetle, drive her to school and run my errands. Get back home, and just for the fun of it, go to the van and try to start it- the &^$% fires right up! It's been doing this for a few weeks now and its driving me crazy! Jeff 

Jeff Stewart 

----- "Paul Guzyk" <paullist08@GUZYK.COM> wrote: 

Try "jiggling" gear shift around Park and Neutral while turning key to 
start. 

keep foot on brake just in case. 

You can also remove gear shift housing cover and bypass switch to test if it 
is the problem. 

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 7:41 AM, David Milo <dellaone@gmail.com> wrote: 

> Could be the neutral safety switch in the gear selector. Try shifting to 
> neutral and see if it will start then. 
> 
>