

| Subject: | Re: Rear Brake Shoe Design Questions |
| From: | Jake de Villiers |
| Date: | Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:43:40 -0700 |
They are super cheap to make and install on the assembly line... On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Don Hanson <dhanson928@gmail.com> wrote: > I guess I'm 'easily amused' then. I've not seen any drum brakes other > than the ones on my motorcycles..or perhaps I haven't paid much attention > to them. on trucks and stuff....Maybe 'leading shoe' is what I envision > when > I think of drum brakes. > ..Yeah, they do work ok, but it seems like a mistake in the design if they > only wear out one end of the shoe always. Why have that other end even > in there, if it never really touches the drum or helps stop the vehicle, > execpt perhaps when you pull on the parking brake? Don't go all huffy on > me...I am not trash-talking the Vanagon...just sayin'.... > Don Hanson > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Mike <mbucchino@charter.net> wrote: > > > If that's true, then most production vehicle's drum brakes must also > be > > laughable. They practically all use this same design, not just in the > rear, > > but in the front, too. > > Oh yeah, it really works, too, and has for millions of vehicles, over > > millions of miles, for decades, even on Vanagons..........believe it or > not! > > > > Mike B. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM> > > *To:* vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > *Sent:* Thursday, April 30, 2009 2:45 PM > > *Subject:* Re: Rear Brake Shoe Design Questions > > > > The rear drum brakes on MY van..an '84..they are laughable. First time I > > looked at them, I was amazed..."This is how it was sold?" I thought. The > > brake shoe mechanisim in the rear hub reminded me of what you might see > on > > a > > stagecoach...except the stagecoach ones must have worked better with just > a > > single 'center'.rather than pretty much pivoting on one end and moving > only > > the other end.... I bet you can find vanagon rear shoes with linings > that > > are untouched on one end and worn to steel on the other. > > They do help stop the van, I guess. Musta been a Friday when > > the VW engineers sent in that design to Managment..I am not complaining > > though..they work. > > If I lived and worked somewhere involving a commute through the > mountains > > or over a pass, I guess I'd swap them for something different, a set up > > that > > actually used the braking surface that you pay for on the shoes... > > Don Hanson > > > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:27 AM, neil N <musomuso@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi all. > > > > > > I read of details regarding spacers (Dennis Haynes) one could install > > > at anchor end of the brake shoes. My understanding is that this would > > > help ensure more of the shoe contacts the drum. > > > > > > Does adding spacers accomplish something similar to arcing the shoes? > > > (not done much these days from what I've read) > > > > > > Were VW shoes shaped to fit the drum better than aftermarket shoes? > > > > > > If so, would one be wise to install these spacers when installing new > > > shoes and hardware? > > > > > > AFAIK, my braking system is working right. But, I notice that with > > > foot on brake engine running, I pull up the handbrake and feel the > > > pedal drop a *little*. Is this because the lower portion of shoe is > > > pushed out to contact drum? > > > > > > Curious minds just need to know, > > > > > > Neil. > > > > > > -- > > > Neil Nicholson '81 VanaJetta 2.0 "Jaco" > > > > > > http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/vanagons-with-vw-inline-4-cylinder-gas-engines > > > > > > > > -- Jake 1984 Vanagon GL 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie" Crescent Beach, BC www.crescentbeachguitar.com http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27
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