Not to mention a violation of code/ law (due to the danger).

Mike B. (licensed electrician in MA and RI)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Elliott" <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 6:20 PM
Subject: NVC: Re: If you're bored.... Vanagon Engine Conversion Progress
(welding pics)

> This is now NVC, but I gotta say.
>
> You replaced a 20A household breaker with a 30A? Well, if you suddenly
> smell wood smoke while you're welding, just know that if the blaze was
> started by that circuit overheating, your home's fire insurance is
> worthless.
>
> If you already know this, then forge ahead! Have at it! But forewarned is
> forearmed.
>
> --
> Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
> 71 Type 2: the Wonderbus
> 84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical Banana")
> 74 Utility Trailer. Ladybug Trailer, Inc., San Juan Capistrano
> KG6RCR
>
>
>
> On 3/19/2008 2:07 PM Scott Daniel - Shazam wrote:
>
>> Sounds all good.
>> I have a 20 amp circuit that would trip the same way -get that 300 or 500
>> watt light on it, and my wire feed welder and it would trip pretty
>> easily.
>>
>> I'd never thought this, but it makes sense - a guy pointed out to me that
>> once a circuit breaker has tripped many times, it's weaker and will trip
>> more easily than it should.   I think I just replaced my old 20 amp
>> circuit
>> breaker with a 30.
>> You're getting' it ........be firin' that mutha up soon !
>> Scott
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: neil N [mailto:musomuso@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:58 PM
>> To: Scott Daniel - Shazam
>> Cc: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com
>> Subject: Re: If you're bored.... Vanagon Engine Conversion Progress
>> (welding
>> pics)
>>
>> Good pointers.
>>
>> No extension cord. All 12/2 from a 20 amp dedicated breaker. (though I
>> have "snuck" a fan on there) Only tripped it once because I had a 300
>> watt work lamp on the circuit. It has been banned from this circuit!
>>
>> I'll have to research wire that's best for the gases I'm running. For
>> now, I'm getting that sizzling sound. Most of the time --- ;^)
>>
>> Neat about wire lube. This is a decent (Hobart) welder, so wire feed
>> system is good. No birds nests or binding. I'm careful about how I
>> position the cable to gun.
>>
>> Neil.
>>
>> On 3/19/08, Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
>>> Here's another tip - make sure the welder is plugged directly into the
>> wall
>>>  socket and not on a long extension cord.
>>>
>>>  I went from argon/CO2 to a slightly different gas with ........helium
>>> ( ?
>> )
>>>  in it maybe.  Might have helped a tiny bit.
>>>
>>>  Oh, if you have any wire feeding issues - I got these little felt pads
>> that
>>>  fit over the wire in the machine before the wire t enters the tube and
>>>  gun......and you put drops of the correct lube on it, helps the wire
>> slide
>>>  consistently in the tube and gun.
>>>   Also ......the sound - when it's welding right .......it's a nice
>>> sharp
>>>  sizzle.
>>>  Scott
>>>  www.turbovans.com
>>>
>>>
>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>  From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
>> Of
>>>  neil N
>>>  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 11:28 AM
>>>  To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: If you're bored.... Vanagon Engine Conversion Progress
>> (welding
>>>  pics)
>>>
>>>
>>> 25/75  Argon/CO2.
>>>
>>>  Why?
>>>
>>>  Type of wire/gas useage?
>>>
>>>  I'm using OPT S6 .030 solid wire.
>>>
>>>  --- :^)
>>>
>>>  Thanks,
>>>
>>>  Neil.
>>>
>>>  On 3/19/08, Larry Alofs <lalofs@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>  > Neil,
>>>  > What gas or gas mixture are you using?
>>>  >
>>>  > Larry A.
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  > On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 10:30 AM, neil N <musomuso@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>  >
>>>  > > No disrespect intended --- :^)
>>>  > >
>>>  > > Getting proper penetration seems to be the biggest factor in
>>> welding.
>>>  > > That I can see anyways.
>>>  > >
>>>  > > That and test fitting a piece before making final welds.....
>>>  > >
>>>  > > (yes that was me who made part of my driver side support for the
>>>  > > passenger side w/o test fitting it!)
>>>  > >
>>>  > > D-oh!
>>>  > >
>>>  > > Neil.
>>>  > >
>>>  > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 8:25 AM, Allan Streib
>>> <streib@cs.indiana.edu>
>>>  > > wrote:
>>>  > > >
>>>  > > > On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 08:10:53 -0700, "neil N" <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
>>>  said:
>>>  > > >
>>>  > > > > Ah yes. The shifter!
>>>  > > >
>>>  > > > I only ground that weld because it was preventing the spring from
>>>  > > > compressing and blocking the proper placement of the retaining
>> collar.
>>>  > > > I didn't realize that the weld was all on the surface and
>>> evidently
>>>  had
>>>  > > > not penetrated at all.
>>>  > > >
>>>  > > > Allan
>>>  > > > --
>>>  > > > 1991 Vanagon GL
>>>  > > >
>>>  > >
>>>  > >
>>>  > >
>>>  > > --
>>>  > > Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia - "Jaco"
>>>  > >
>>>  > > http://web.mac.com/tubaneil
>>>  > > http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/
>>>  > >
>>>  >
>>>  --
>>>  Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia - "Jaco"
>>>  http://web.mac.com/tubaneil
>>>  http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
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